Missing Guest Book Entries

Missing Guest Book Entries

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, and they also who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
(Revelation 1:7 NKJV)

Music Title: I Just Called

We deeply regret the fact that the entries of a number of visitors to Circuit Rider's Range somehow had been deleted from the Guest Book. We are not sure how this happened, but Circuit Rider has been able to retrieve most of them through a download which he did shortly before the Guest Book underwent some technical changes. Many encouraging words have been shared in the Guest Book entries which provide further incentive for CR to keep on with the ministry of Circuit Rider's Range. Entries that follow were made during the period of January through end of March '99, starting with the most recent and working back toward January.

However, since this was all done there has been an additional entry made as of September 9, 1999. This one is distinctly different and threw CR into a quandry for a while as to what to do with it! If you want to go directly to this one and be challenged a bit, click on An atheist appeals to Marilyn Manson!!!

Visitor's Name: Kathey Neal
Homepage URL: Toolbox Jack Mounting Bracket
You are from: Lufkin, Texas

Comments: I really enjoyed your website. I agree with you 100% on "slick willy", I have a problem with someone being the president that is too sorry to defend our country but now has the "guts & glory" to do so now. I get so mad when he is on tv that I just get up & leave the room. I need to pray a whole lot because of the way I feel about him. He is a disgrace to the American way! I also agree with you 100% about the way he is handling the gun situation. When someone is killed on a pair of rollerskates, do we sue the company that makes the rollerskates? I will get off my soapbox now, but I really do enjoy your website.
Sign Time: March 27 1999 at 22:55:43

Visitor's Name: Berny & Carolyn Foyle
You are from: Woodstock, Virginia
Comments: Private message.
Sign Time: March 25 1999 at 20:56:42

Visitor's Name: Rev. Jim Roper
Homepage URL: Maury City United Methodist Church
You are from: Maury City TN 38050
Comments: Way to go, Claytton! Grace and peace from a fellow UM evangelical. Join me in praying for General Conference 2000. God answers prayer, and He brings revival!
Sign Time: March 18 1999 at 14:54:20

Visitor's Name: Oral Henderson
You are from: Cherokee Village, AR
Comments: Have bookmarked your home page. Will read it more throughly when there is more time. Looks interesting.
Sign Time: March 18 1999 at 10:42:52

Visitor's Name: Leslie L. Leavitt
You are from: Friendship UM Church, Punta Gorda, FL
Comments: Private message.
Sign Time: February 27 1999 at 15:35:16

Visitor's Name: bob howard
You are from: san diego ca. 92122
Comments: Long time methodist, kindred spirit,One Way, and I accept Him as my Savior
Sign Time: February 25 1999 at 17:44:03

Visitor's Name: Rev. Arvella J. Palmer
You are from: New Concord, Ohio 43762
Comments: I am in seminary at Methesco. Sorry I do not have time to read all. But I enjoyed what I did read. Wish I had time to cook like Jean. I use to do that before I became a circut Rider. Keep up the good work. How did I get you mail?
Sign Time: February 24 1999 at 06:53:54

Visitor's Name: Kevin R. Olson
You are from: Grand Forks, ND
Comments: Your webpage looks like it deserves further looking. Just a quick browse through made me interested. I am Dakotas Conference BOGM Refugee Ministries Coordinator. Please feel free to contact me. Kevin
Sign Time: February 22 1999 at 10:57:23

Visitor's Name: Ellen Beebe
You are from: N. Georgia Conf.; Marietta FUMC; Marietta, GA
Comments: Great page. I can't wait to explore it all. May God continue to lead you and bless you as you go forth to spread the good news!
Sign Time: February 18 1999 at 05:03:45

Visitor's Name: Ed Jenkins
You are from: South Fork PA
Comments: Private message.
Sign Time: February 15 1999 at 19:35:47

Visitor's Name: Rev. John Warrener
Homepage URL: Unofficial Confessing Movement Page
You are from: Georgia, USA
Comments: Great to see another Christian Methodist website contending "for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints."
Sign Time: February 15 1999 at 11:37:47

Visitor's Name: Tom Lindrose
You are from: Mercer,PA
Comments: Private message.
Sign Time: February 12 1999 at 15:29:30

Visitor's Name: Richard D, Broewr
You are from: Starrucca,Pa.
Comments: Enjoyed your work. Truly a pleasure to hear from someone who still believes that the word of God is the final authority. I too am a brother to your very good friend, and rejoice in the day when we shall meet face to face. Jesus is the only way, truth and life.
Sign Time: February 09 1999 at 21:14:35

Visitor's Name: Dick Dalfiume
You are from: Vestal, NY
Comments: Clayton, it is a pleasure to meet a real Circuit Rider instead of one of those dude "riders of the purple sage" who seem intent on getting as far away from The Truth as their man-made mounts can take them.
Sign Time: February 08 1999 at 13:35:13

Visitor's Name: LAWRENCE A. SCOTT, JR
You are from: MEMPHIS, TN
Comments: GOOD WORK.
Sign Time: February 06 1999 at 17:00:22

Visitor's Name: Rev. Nancy Kozlowski
Homepage URL: Milford United Methodist Church
You are from: Milford, NY
Comments: Thanks for providing good useful information in one accessible place.
Sign Time: February 05 1999 at 22:14:17

Visitor's Name: Jake Barker
You are from: Oklahoma
Comments: This is a great site.
Sign Time: February 05 1999 at 09:00:06

Visitor's Name: Rev. Paul A. Dunn
Homepage URL: Pastor Paul's Pad
You are from: Greensburg, PA
Comments: Circrider's Range should be required reading for all United Methodists. Keep contending (Jude 3, 4).
Sign Time: February 03 1999 at 12:11:04

Visitor's Name: C. Karen Covey Moore
You are from: Delaware
Comments: Very entertaining!! Haven't taken time to visit all the ranges, but the intro looks good. Keep up the good work. Shalom
Sign Time: February 01 1999 at 16:17:31

An Email Response to Circuit Riderís Range (also had been entered in 7 segments into the Guest Book, but as previously explained, CR went to the Tech Page and deleted them) 99/09/07

Hell.. is the place that doesn't exist.. neather does heaven.. once yur dead yur dead.. just live w/ it... y do u belive in this crap? is it b/c yur a religious freak.. or if not a freak @ least a follower of a religion? well then yur kinda stupid.. b/c religion is very pointless... whatz the use of it? to make you think yur goin to suffer if u do n-e thing bad? I think not... And then they say.. if yur good you'll goto a place call heaven.. what the hell... who whould be stupid enuff to belive in that? who would be stupid enuff to make that up? you would have to have somethin wrong w/ you.. but 'll give u the benifit of the doubt that you were raised to think that.. but hopefull by the end of this guestbook thing you will see my point and relize that you have wasted all that time belivin in somethin that doesn't exist.. well I'm goin to let u read some words of wisdom from Marilyn Manson... ponder what he says b/c hes not as bad as the media makes him... itz you little religiouis freaks that give people like him a bad name.. just let him live his life how he wants... at least hez not like.. oh yur evil.. yur goin to hell... see you put everyone down.. make us feel like rejects... well here are his words.. reas them and ponder them...

Columbine: Whose Fault Is It? 5/28/99

I don't like the media, but the media likes me.

by Marilyn Manson

It is sad to think that the first few people on earth needed no books, movies, games or music to inspire cold-blooded murder. The day that Cain bashed his brother Abel's brains in, the only motivation he needed was his own human disposition to violence. Whether you interpret the Bible as literature or as the final word of whatever God may be, Christianity has given us an image of death and sexuality that we have based our culture around. A half-naked dead man hangs in most homes and around our necks, and we have just taken that for granted all our lives. Is it a symbol of hope or hopelessness? The world's most famous murder-suicide was also the birth of the death icon -- the blueprint for celebrity. Unfortunately, for all of their inspiring morality, nowhere in the Gospels is intelligence praised as a virtue.

A lot of people forget or never realize that I started my band as a criticism of these very issues of despair and hypocrisy. The name Marilyn Manson has never celebrated the sad fact that America puts killers on the cover of Time magazine, giving them as much notoriety as our favorite movie stars. From Jesse James to Charles Manson, the media, since their inception, have turned criminals into folk heroes. They just created two new ones when they plastered those (expletive deleted by cdh) Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris' pictures on the front of every newspaper. Don't be surprised if every kid who gets pushed around has two new idols.

We applaud the creation of a bomb whose sole purpose is to destroy all of mankind, and we grow up watching our president's brains splattered all over Texas. Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised. Does anyone think the Civil War was the least bit civil? If television had existed, you could be sure they would have been there to cover it, or maybe even participate in it, like their violent car chase of Princess Di. Disgusting vultures looking for corpses, exploiting, (expletive deleted by cdh), filming and serving it up for our hungry appetites in a gluttonous display of endless human stupidity.

When it comes down to who's to blame for the high school murders in Littleton, Colorado, throw a rock and you'll hit someone who's guilty. We're the people who sit back and tolerate children owning guns, and we're the ones who tune in and watch the up-to-the-minute details of what they do with them. I think it's terrible when anyone dies, especially if it is someone you know and love. But what is more offensive is that when these tragedies happen, most people don't really care any more than they would about the season finale of Friends or The Real World. I was dumbfounded as I watched the media snake right in, not missing a teardrop, interviewing the parents of dead children, televising the funerals. Then came the witch hunt.

Man's greatest fear is chaos. It was unthinkable that these kids did not have a simple black-and-white reason for their actions. And so a scapegoat was needed. I remember hearing the initial reports from Littleton, that Harris and Klebold were wearing makeup and were dressed like Marilyn Manson, whom they obviously must worship, since they were dressed in black. Of course, speculation snowballed into making me the poster boy for everything that is bad in the world. These two idiots weren't wearing makeup, and they weren't dressed like me or like goths. Since Middle America has not heard of the music they did listen to (KMFDM and Rammstein, among others), the media picked something they thought was similar.

Responsible journalists have reported with less publicity that Harris and Klebold were not Marilyn Manson fans -- that they even disliked my music. Even if they were fans, that gives them no excuse, nor does it mean that music is to blame. Did we look for James Huberty's inspiration when he gunned down people at McDonald's? What did Timothy McVeigh like to watch? What about David Koresh, Jim Jones? Do you think entertainment inspired Kip Kinkel, or should we blame the fact that his father bought him the guns he used in the Springfield, Oregon, murders? What inspires Bill Clinton to blow people up in Kosovo? Was it something that Monica Lewinsky said to him? Isn't killing just killing, regardless if it's in Vietnam or Jonesboro, Arkansas? Why do we justify one, just because it seems to be for the right reasons? Should there ever be a right reason? If a kid is old enough to drive a car or buy a gun, isn't he old enough to be held personally responsible for what he does with his car or gun? Or if he's a teenager, should someone else be blamed because he isn't as enlightened as an eighteen-year-old?

America loves to find an icon to hang its guilt on. But, admittedly, I have assumed the role of Antichrist; I am the Nineties voice of individuality, and people tend to associate anyone who looks and behaves differently with illegal or immoral activity. Deep down, most adults hate people who go against the grain. It's comical that people are naive enough to have forgotten Elvis, Jim Morrison and Ozzy so quickly. All of them were subjected to the same age-old arguments, scrutiny and prejudice. I wrote a song called "Lunchbox," and some journalists have interpreted it as a song about guns. Ironically, the song is about being picked on and fighting back with my Kiss lunch box, which I used as a weapon on the playground. In 1979, metal lunch boxes were banned because they were considered dangerous weapons in the hands of delinquents. I also wrote a song called "Get Your Gunn." The title is spelled with two n's because the song was a reaction to the murder of Dr. David Gunn, who was killed in Florida by pro-life activists while I was living there. That was the ultimate hypocrisy I witnessed growing up: that these people killed someone in the name of being "pro-life."

The somewhat positive messages of these songs are usually the ones that sensationalists misinterpret as promoting the very things I am decrying. Right now, everyone is thinking of how they can prevent things like Littleton. How do you prevent AIDS, world war, depression, car crashes? We live in a free country, but with that freedom there is a burden of personal responsibility. Rather than teaching a child what is moral and immoral, right and wrong, we first and foremost can establish what the laws that govern us are. You can always escape hell by not believing in it, but you cannot escape death and you cannot escape prison.

It is no wonder that kids are growing up more cynical; they have a lot of information in front of them. They can see that they are living in a world that's made of (expletive deleted by cdh). In the past, there was always the idea that you could turn and run and start something better. But now America has become one big mall, and because of the Internet and all of the technology we have, there's nowhere to run. People are the same everywhere. Sometimes music, movies and books are the only things that let us feel like someone else feels like we do. I've always tried to let people know it's OK, or better, if you don't fit into the program. Use your imagination -- if some geek from Ohio can become something, why can't anyone else with the willpower and creativity?

I chose not to jump into the media frenzy and defend myself, though I was begged to be on every single TV show in existence. I didn't want to contribute to these fame-seeking journalists and opportunists looking to fill their churches or to get elected because of their self-righteous finger-pointing. They want to blame entertainment? Isn't religion the first real entertainment? People dress up in costumes, sing songs and dedicate themselves in eternal fandom. Everyone will agree that nothing was more entertaining than Clinton shooting off his (expletive deleted by cdh) and then his bombs in true political form. And the news -- that's obvious. So is entertainment to blame? I'd like media commentators to ask themselves, because their coverage of the event was some of the most gruesome entertainment any of us have seen.

I think that the National Rifle Association is far too powerful to take on, so most people choose Doom, The Basketball Diaries or yours truly. This kind of controversy does not help me sell records or tickets, and I wouldn't want it to. I'm a controversial artist, one who dares to have an opinion and bothers to create music and videos that challenge people's ideas in a world that is watered-down and hollow. In my work I examine the America we live in, and I've always tried to show people that the devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. So don't expect the end of the world to come one day out of the blue -- it's been happening every day for a long time.


so now that u can see.. this is whee I stand.. if u think different u can e-mail me and I'll be wilin to talk to ya and help u relize.. Well I'm goin ot go.. hopefully this help you see reality.


Your Guestbook doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTE by CR: The sender, Mr/Ms Atheist did misspell his/her signature as given above, but I fixed a link so that if you wish to correspond with him/her, just click on the name! Have fun :-))

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